Ellicottville Conditions

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1 week 4 days ago #44975 by Jon Sundquist
Jon Sundquist replied the topic: Ellicottville Conditions
Wow it's amazing to have such completely different experiences. I rode it fewer the 50 times, but of the dozens of times I rode it, it looked just like that video. The only slopfest was the section along Champagne, which did get worse as the year wore on, and for that we have been asking a number of times for more gravel from Holiday Valley. They said they will get it this spring, as well as construct a new trail over on the morningstar side. Here is the latest:

RE: Holiday Valley MB Trails
From: <<>>@holidayvalley.com>
To: Jon Sundquist <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Subject: RE: Holiday Valley MB Trails
Date: Monday, April 03, 2017 3:23 PM

Jon,
We are doing a timber harvest hopefully sooner than later and yes the plan is to rough in the new connection across Morning star and moon shadow to MB 2. I’m meeting with the timber buyer this week. We will get stone to Champagne this spring as soon as feasible. Mike and I will both be on Vacation next week and will set up some work plans later in the month.

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1 week 4 days ago #44974 by kb voodoo
kb voodoo replied the topic: Ellicottville Conditions

Painfulldischarge wrote: Jon, I'm not knocking the trail work or being critical. My post was more of a heads up of what to expect on that trail, if you're coming out of McCarthy. I was psyched to ride it and disappointed at how sloppy it was in parts, given how dry McCarthy was. I didn't want to have to give my bike a full cleaning. I figured maybe it was the day, so tried it again a month or two later and it was the same. It is a very cool trail, really pretty coming through the pines from the lake. Just has some sloppy spots that hopefully can get fixed.


I'll back this statement up 100%. I did roughly 50 rides in Ellicottville last summer, many of which started and ended at the Training Center. After a while I just gave up on the "flow trail" and just took MB-1 back down.

It was a complete mess most of the summer.

The 1970's: No knee pads, helmets, brakes, or over cautious soccer mom's. It's just how we rolled...

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1 week 4 days ago #44973 by Jon Sundquist
Jon Sundquist replied the topic: Ellicottville Conditions
And just to be clear, MB-2 is total mud slide right now. Most of it was covered be man made snow up until last week, and much of the rest is still covered by man made snow. MB-2 won't be rideable for weeks to come, maybe another month or more. This trail is not like the rest of the trails at E-ville because of all the man made snow.

Anyone been out to e-ville since it rained last weekend? I was out of town so I don't know how much fell. Was it a lot?

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1 week 4 days ago #44972 by Painfulldischarge
Painfulldischarge replied the topic: Ellicottville Conditions
Jon, I'm not knocking the trail work or being critical. My post was more of a heads up of what to expect on that trail, if you're coming out of McCarthy. I was psyched to ride it and disappointed at how sloppy it was in parts, given how dry McCarthy was. I didn't want to have to give my bike a full cleaning. I figured maybe it was the day, so tried it again a month or two later and it was the same. It is a very cool trail, really pretty coming through the pines from the lake. Just has some sloppy spots that hopefully can get fixed.

Buy the ticket, take the ride. -HST

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1 week 4 days ago #44971 by Jon Sundquist
Jon Sundquist replied the topic: Ellicottville Conditions
There is no question it needs some work. Specifically on the seep on Champagne (and the section just before it), and also in the woods near Tannenbaum (which were dry last year, but probably won't be in a normal year). But here is what it looked like last year. The mud on the camera came from the seep on Champagne.


Painfulldischarge wrote: You got me. I am making this up. There is more than one seep on that trail. If it was bone dry, it wasn't that way the times I rode it over last summer/fall and like I said, McCarthy was so dry it was dusty and MB-2 was a slopfest.

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1 week 4 days ago #44970 by Painfulldischarge
Painfulldischarge replied the topic: Ellicottville Conditions
You got me. I am making this up. There is more than one seep on that trail. If it was bone dry, it wasn't that way the times I rode it over last summer/fall and like I said, McCarthy was so dry it was dusty and MB-2 was a slopfest.

Buy the ticket, take the ride. -HST

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